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	<title>Chris Meyer - Mentions &#187; pay for Pandora</title>
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		<title>Pandora 40 Hour Limit Reached!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The world has ended, I&#8217;ve hit my 40 hour allotment of Pandora for the month. So what happens when you run out of 40 hours of Pandora. . . This is where it gets interesting. I was joking about this with my co-workers this afternoon, since generally my Pandora is signed in and playing whenever [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world has ended, I&#8217;ve hit my 40 hour allotment of Pandora for the month.  So what happens when you run out of 40 hours of Pandora. . .</p>
<p>This is where it gets interesting.  I was joking about this with my co-workers this afternoon, since generally my Pandora is signed in and playing whenever I&#8217;m at work, which means I should hit my 40 hours in just a shade under a week every month.  So expectedly I&#8217;ve hit the limit, so we figured just sign up for another account and sign in again and run through another 40 hours (which probably violates the TOS, but nevertheless. . .)</p>
<p>Nope, no chance, in fact the whole Pandora site changes over when you hit 40 hours. Gone is the registration link.  No matter, I&#8217;ll remote desktop to another computer and register a new address and use it here since I can&#8217;t register locally.  Nope!  Logging in with a completely new registered e-mail address still says that I&#8217;ve listened to my 40 hours and am entitled to no more.</p>
<p>Alright, last try, let&#8217;s clear all of the browser caches/cookies/etc, and try again.  Well, given that the site still has no register a new account link means it will make no difference.  They&#8217;re clearly tracking usage by IP address, perhaps machine reported statistics, and obviously your username plays a role on some level (though obviously not entirely).</p>
<p>I wonder what happens on a shared IP address?  Anybody out there know?  Anybody else run into the 40 hour limit?  I don&#8217;t mind paying the cheap cost of good quality music, but I&#8217;d like to know how their tracking these things.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE</strong>:</p>
<p>After paying $0.99 on about the 20th of the last several months I finally bit the bullet and gave Pandora my hard earned $36 for the year (it&#8217;s nice that I don&#8217;t have to dig around for the &#8220;don&#8217;t auto-renew button&#8221;, it&#8217;s just presented when you pay).  I have to admit that the desktop app alone is worth the money, not having a bogged down browser is immediately apparent on an older computer, even when running with Chrome or with Pandora in a separate browser.</p>
<p>After some &#8220;careful&#8221; research, I&#8217;ve concluded that Pandora is storing player information in both a flash object, and tracking the time played by user account AND IP address, so if you want to continue to get more than 40 hours/month you need to have a separate account, a separate data/internet connection (you don&#8217;t have to clear flash cache or anything else) and then wait until you run one account out and switch over to the other for the rest of the month.  I could pay ~$12/year by waiting until I run out each month but again the higher quality, no advertisements, 5 hour timeout and the dedicated player are all well worth it!  YMMV</p>
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